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Hiroshima forum: Change of plans/itinerary - please help

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   U.S.A. ( the land that...
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Posted on: 3:31 pm, July 22, 2008

I am posting this on the Japan and Tokyo forums as well.

We will have only four full days in Japan :-( at the end of September/first week of October. We have had to, sadly, scrap our plan to visit Matsue/Miho.

We are however, still very keen on visiting Kamakura, Hiroshima, Miyajima, Iwakuni and Kure ( last two for sentimental reasons).

We will be arriving on a Sunday at 6 p.m, Terminal One at Narita Airport and leaving the following Friday at 11.30 a.m, again via Narita ( Terminal One).

We are thinking of staying overnight at a hotel near the airport/ JR station, on the Sunday we arrive, so

that we can leave the next morning, Monday, for Hiroshima, by train. Any suggestions? Our intial itinerary had us staying at Ueno Park area.

We will stay at Hiroshima Monday and Tuesday nights. Will two full days be enough to see Hiroshima, Miyajima and briefly visit Iwakuni and Kure?

Wednesday morning, return to Tokyo from Hiroshima, by train.

Where should we stay in Tokyo, that is convenient to train to Kamakura as well as to Narita airport?

Thursday morning, leave for Kamakura, spend day there, return that evening.

Friday morning, leave for Narita to catch our flight to Singapore.

Will this be too rushed?

On Wednesday, we will have the rest of the day free after our 4 hour train ride from Hiroshima. Will we have time to see Imperial Palace grounds? Any other suggestions for that afternoon/evening? We would ideally love to go up close to Mount Fuji on that day if the weather is clear but looks like we won't have time to do that trip.

OR, is a trip to Kisarazu doable on that day ( sentimental reasons)?

Any passes/discount fares we should be aware of? I don't think the JR week pass applies in our case.

Domo arigato gozaimasu.

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Posted on: 6:51 pm, July 23, 2008

Could I suggest that you break your post down into separate questions and then post each - this could be why you have not had any responses so far.

I will try and deal with some of your queries.

1. I would not stay at the airport the first night - why, it will not take you long to get into wherever you are going to stay in Tokyo and you will need to do this next morning anyway. Your choice of Ueno (Park is right near the station) is actually a good one because the train you will most likely need to catch will stop / leave from Ueno station.

2. I am not familiar with the Hiroshima leg of your itinerary so can not comment.

3. Kamakura is quite easy to get to on the JR line from Tokyo - I would consider an early start, early lunch and then head back if time is short - do not show any type of food at the 'beach' (sorry I can't call it a beach when I'm Aussie) the hawks will come and steal it right out of your hands.

4. I think you have too much travelling time sitting on trains in your itinerary, rather than looking around and engaging with the culture and the people.

5. Looking at the Imperial palace gardens in Tokyo should only take a half day.

6. Mt Fuji is again more time sitting on a train.

7. If you do decide to do this much train travel over these distances you may find that the JR pass is actually viable. Check out the cost of each long leg of your journey using the hyperdia web site and then compare to the JR pass - you may find that the pass comes out in front. The JR area passes restrict the trains (Rapid and below ie only local express trains) you can travel on compared to the JR pass.

I would also consider reserving seats, there are some legs where trains may be fully booked.

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Livinglife
Posted on: 7:16 pm, July 23, 2008

Please accept my apologies, Annaroo. You're right - I should have just posted the Hiroshima part of my rambling :-) on the Hiroshima forum. Your replies are gratefully acknowledged.

I did get many helpful responses for the same post on the main Japan forum and I think we are all set.

We are getting the JR one week pass.

Instead of Ueno, posters on the Japan forum suggested either Yokohama, Shinagawa or Shinjuku so I've been looking at those areas for hotels - however, you say Ueno is a good base. Hmmmm....will have to go over the maps again!

Thanks, Annaroo.

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Posted on: 5:22 am, July 24, 2008

The other locations are good suggestions as a tourist base in Tokyo, however as you are looking at a one night stay after flying in and then moving on I would still consider Ueno the best place other than near Tokyo station itself. These are the 2 stations that you can catch the Shinkasen trains from.

Ueno is also not as 'up market' as some of the other areas, but is still very safe, interesting and you should have no problems finding dinner and breakfast if you choose not the eat at your hotel.

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Posted on: 11:40 am, July 24, 2008

>>The other locations are good suggestions as a tourist base in Tokyo, however as you are looking at a one night stay after flying in and then moving on I would still consider Ueno the best place other than near Tokyo station itself. These are the 2 stations that you can catch the Shinkasen trains from.<<<

Tokaido Shinkansen trains you need to take when traveling to Kyoto, Osaka, Hiroshima and Hakata, etc. do not stop at Ueno. However, Shinkansen trains heading north and east, such as Jyoketsu and Tohoku stop at Ueno.

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Posted on: 12:05 pm, July 24, 2008

I would go to Tokyo and stay overnight there. The main reason is that you will be a little closer to your destination, and there are no train transfers between Tokyo and Hiroshima; you simply hop on the shinkansen and go. Also, you might as well see Tokyo if possible; it's only for a short time, but Tokyo at night is quite overwhelming. Finally, if you leave from Narita to Tokyo and then to Hiroshima you'll be dealing with the Monday morning commute. It'll be a bear. For that reason you might look at going to possibly Kamakura; it's a longer trip, though, with more train transfers at that time of night (though there might be a direct bus from the airport; not certain about that).

I also suggest shipping your luggage straight from Narita to your Hiroshima hotel, if you can. Take what you need in one bag or a backpack. Your bags will meet you at your hotel.

Sorry, I have no specific hotel recommendations for Tokyo; I usually stay with friends when I go.

Two days should be plenty for Hiroshima/Miyajima. You'll need to take the earliest Shinkansen. It might not be enough time for the other sites, though.

Good luck!

John W.

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Livinglife
Posted on: 2:40 pm, July 24, 2008

I refer you all to my new thread on the Japan Forum titled - Aieeeeeeeeeeeee! Please post your replies there,from now on, assuming you are not fed up with me by now :-)

Thank you!

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Route246
Posted on: 7:49 pm, July 24, 2008

Don't feel bad. Your questions and the answers here provide a nice record for others who have the same questions.

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Livinglife
Posted on: 8:08 pm, July 24, 2008

Thank you, Route-san ..your reply reminded me of my papa :-)

JohnW: I completely forgot to say 'thank you' for your helpful response above ... forgive me.. and, domo arigato.

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